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Recently, Take-Two Interactive boss Strauss Zelnick and Xbox head Phil Spencer sat down with TheWrap’s editor-in-chief Sharon Waxman to discuss the future of gaming. During TheGrill interview, Zelnick accidentally revealed that Xbox Game Pass now numbers around 30 million subscribers. He said this towards the end when Waxman asked the two about new business models in the entertainment industry.

Zelnick revealed, "the last time I checked, we're around 30 million … Something like that?" He then asked Spencer what the figure was, but Spencer just said that "the last public number we announced was 18 million … It's more than 18 million."

Since Take-Two Interactive is a prominent publisher — and an important partner for Xbox Game Pass — it's understandable that Zelnick would have information pertaining to subscriber count. However, all of this could just be an honest mistake. Hopefully, Microsoft will announce an official figure soon now that the cat's out of the bag.

Xbox Game Pass is a monthly service where you pay $10 a month on console, or $5 a month on PC, to gain immediate access to over a hundred games. The catalog includes a number of indie titles as well as massive blockbusters. There's also a higher tier called Xbox Game Pass Ultimate that bundles Xbox Game Pass, Xbox Live Gold, Xbox Cloud Gaming, and other perks into the package.